Id like to share a passage of Scripture with you, from me to you:I thank my God every time I remember you. The question is whether what you believe is true. Third, they gained wisdom in how to deal with the people around them. Im not saying youre only reading one verse but I am saying that there are a bunch of verses that you may not be considering here. Whats the difference between going to Heaven and going to Hell? or have had an encounter with Him ? Closely following Mormonism or Catholicism will not save anyone. When it comes to how one is saved in the new covenant, again youre right: we cant just pick out certain verses. Then their corpses rot and fertilize the ground. Dont think you have to wait until youre able to leave THAT church before you can get started doing what God wants. Jesus provides this baptism, and it is this baptism that makes one a Christian. Its clear that some people who think they are saved arent actually saved. Do you think god was watching over us that day, and still is? The New Testament is clear that everyone will either be in Heaven or Hell. All of the people Ive known over the years who have said the same kind of thing. I baptize you with water, but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit. Baptism is important, but it doesnt give us life. One of the things He said was to not worry about tomorrow that today has enough trouble. It seems unfair. But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions it is by grace you have been saved. Jesus said that HE is the only way to the Father. Spread Jesus messagethe same message that He preached, that His disciples preached, and that believers have preached for many centuries. Nobody will be kept out of Heaven because they made a mistake, or because they were misled, or because they got a bit of information wrong. So must i be baptized again for hands to be laid upon me to receive the Holy Spirit, because it seems im just baptized for repentance of my Sins. Did you read that book and then wonder whether theres a real Hell, and not just hell on earth? Its a public declaration of faith. Yes, Jesus paid the penalty for all mankind but all mankind has the choice to accept what Jesus did through faith, baptism and following Jesus and his word. Of course you dont. While we were sinners even enemies of God He died for us. those of us who came later and inherited this world were born into sin and our heritage is the unforgiven disobedience and sins of our ancestors. Bronwyn { Can unbaptized people get to Heaven and what happens to those unfamiliar with the Father? After the battle of Armageddon, after Jesus 1000-year reign, after the great tribulation: I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. This, of course, is a weird and shocking thing to say. I hope you dont mind. Thats life. Ill make it really, really simple. Theres no limitation on the number involved, but because its an important step for a believer, we should make an effort to do it well. You should not feel guilty and stressed about this. Almost every religion teaches how one should act to make the gods not smite you, or to reward you for your good works. The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abrahams side. Did you know that JESUS will be judging us? For it is by grace you have been saved through faith. No, I dont think youd do those things but you seem to have no problem suggesting that youre right simply because youve read the Bible very deeply. Very likely, youll feel this way again (and again) as you continue to grow and study. Im not the most devout: I dont go to church, nor say my prayers out-loud or frequently, although I think them often, and Ive yet to come to terms and fully comprehend the power of God and what exactly his actions and the actions of his vessels entail. His first sin was committing adultery with Bathsheba, Uriah's wife (2 Samuel 11). The Father sent the Son. If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. I didnt forsake going. Id love to meet you! We must test our beliefs against Scripture, as Im sure you would agree. To a first-century Israeli mind, a private baptism is an oxymorontwo things that cant go together. what happens to unbaptized adults when they die. I have a pretty good idea of what He would say to you. When youve decided to actually FOLLOW Jesus, thats when you should be baptized. Because Adam was disobedient, God said to him: "Dust you are and to dust you will return.". Menu. I grew up in the church and at one point I was having a hard time in middle school and I asked God to come into my life and being in control, because I didnt want to be any more. Rev. The bible speaks of being asleep unconscience not knowing of anything at all until jesus returns and calls you up. 3:9), as the Church reaffirms in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC): Outside the Church there is no salvation. If your grandsons are there, they will be hoping to see you. For these reasons (and more) I dont use the name Lucifer to refer to the devil. Do you not want to go to church because youd rather stay home and watch Netflix? Going on the Bible, from the beginning of time God has severely punished us for disobedience he is not forgiving, he threw us from the garden of eden naked and afraid and continued with his wrath against disobedience on people up until Noah. Amen. Which Jesus kept but on Saturday not Sunday. They idolize material wealth, success, and abstinence from sin (regardless of whether or not it is actually sin). Many people are taught to be Christians without having much of an idea about faith or repentance. He seems to fit Pauls description of the false teachers in Galatia. Im very excited about your question, Reita. So many keep saying his the Lord spoke to them, how they had a dream, a sign. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him. They dont love me. All we have to do is to recognize that He is God, and we are not. Focus on the New Testament, since Christians are to live by what Jesus did and said. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. If you werent, you would have to work incredibly hard to get on His good side. In Pakistan, you may be killed for your faith. When we decide to trust God with our lives, we are born again. Well first we must distinguish between being gay and engaging in sinful behavior. Thats it. You may or may not be able to control what (or who) youre attracted to. I believe i go to heaven immediately. I want us both to go to heaven but I have never been baptized and we dont live a very Christian life. You can only accept it or reject it. Please tell me is that me, or the enemy trying to stop me from being baptise or just the church may be wrong. In John 3 Jesus told Nicodemus that we must be born again, and that no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. Youre kind of right: if you ONLY read Acts 2:38-39, you will see that baptism is indeed a necessity. There are two sides to answering whether you were saved before. Jesus was in the world. Fortunately, theres an entire field of study for this! What does it mean to be reconciled by God like it says in the article? If thats the case, then Jesus didnt actually die for your sinsdid He? He doesnt force it upon anyone. Our churches would be vibrant, godly and convincing the world that we are His disciples (John 13:34-35). I see them a lot and I am thankful that I get to see them and have a good relationship with them. The idea is that youre showing them that you believe like they do: that God loves you, and that youve chosen to live the way God wants us to live. As my previous comment says, Matthew 25 says that God will separate the godly from the ungodly at the end. Yes, I do agree with you on certain aspects. All three have always existed, eternally. I will accept Gods judgement on me. God can do anything He wants to, including giving angels the ability to look like someone else. Hes always right. Before He died, Jesus taught us about His kingdom, about how we should live, and about Heaven and Hell. The Bible tells us that everyone has been forgiven. Was Gods plan for me? You know, things like loving your neighbor and being forgiving and so on but more. It could backfire and hurt your relationship, rather than make anything better. When we tell God that we DO believe Hes trustworthy, and we surrender our lives to Him, were saying that were going to do things His way instead of our way. He believes, as many oneness folks do, that baptism only works if you do it exactly right. You wrote I dont know enough if this is the best religion for me yet. Let me strongly suggest that you examine this idea. Thats not at issue. Are bankruptcy and debt spiritual consequences? Dont be afraid to ask Him for help. Music can only be good or bad based on the message it sends. On the other hand, some also have only half of the story on Jesus. So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. I appreciate your post, Gina. Im not saying, go to church. Im saying that when you decide to follow Jesus, you ARE the church you and me and everyone else who follows Jesus. If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. We read a number of times in the Bible that Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. I know thats probably the opposite of what youve heard, but its true. Ive studied and discussed this many times over the years, and as my own mother passed away in 2018 considered it as more than a simple intellectual question. This kind of thinking is relatively benign, but can and has, for many lead to serious theological problems. Thats the missing piece in our relationships with God. I dont say this to put you down, of course. Theres a cure for what youre going through. ONE GOD Turns out that was one of the most beneficial periods of my life, where my faith grew strong. Yes, it is. For me, this is another red flag. When we do that, God does something in us. They love you, or they wouldnt be concerned about the messages your music might be sending you. John 1:1 tells us clearly, I truly hope that youre right, and that your grandsons are in Heaven. Therefore, if youre right, the apostle Paul did the people in Rome a very serious disservice by not actually telling them what they must do to be saved. And the Church does not hold that the non-Christian confers the sacrament of matrimony on the Catholic spouse either. But im just not sure what to think of him as. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. I idolized people (Hollywood) just like justin bieber or one direction.. For me, its a very serious problem and i cant stop from listening to their musics.. About minutes ago, i watched a video, what really happen in hell and i aalmost crying.. There must be a difference between being saved and just having everlasting life. Jesus DID endure a horrible beating and death on our behalf. Im now going to give you my best advicethe only advice I have. It could happen to all of us. Clearly, thats not true. When youve finished studying what THE BIBLE says not what some person like me says then you can come back and set me straight. Followers of Jesus need each other. They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have. So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Imagine dating someone and never asking them about their childhood, or learning about their family traditions, or about their favorite foodthat would be strange, wouldnt it? Tell Him that youre sorry for the bad things youve done, and ask Him to wash them away. Baptism is not a kind of spiritually binding, must-get-it-right sort of thing. Were capable of amazing things, and terrible things. The whole world actually, the whole universe was created so God could have people to love. Its not enough to know about God, or even to believe Hes awesome. I recently dreamed of it 2 nights ago and I went further then I usually do and I woke up fearless I actually cried . We have been instructed, by Jesus Himself, to be baptized. My job is to love them, not judge, and leave that up to God. Ill tell you how: trust God with your life. Theyve definitely helped me. Will that affect my relationship with god? What makes you think theres a Heaven at all? Heres where you should start: with God. That means that nobody is there now. Act 2: 38 says that to repent and baptize for the forgiveness of our sins. If you understand that Jesus died to save you from your sins, and if you then trust God with your life, you are a Christian. I believe that you believe in them, but that youve been misled. You can trust Him. Hi Tony Have a great day! The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. Meet with them regularly. Youre not alone. Now: it may be that youre really wondering about having a GOOD relationship with God. The distinction is important. Hi i was searching and came across your site, i feel guilty because i am not baptized, i believe in God but i dont feel i havent an honest relationship with him, i get told so many things like what religion to join and if i dont do things a certain way i wont be saved, it starts to get really confusing and im not sure where to go or where to start. Because this is true, it seems wise to not put it off. The verse says what comes out of your mouth defiles you, not what you put in. It was a fairly common occurrence, and brought joy to the community of faith. Hell is for those who refuse to submit to Godthat is, its for people who want nothing to do with God. That doesnt mean you have to go to church every time the doors open it means dont give up. If youve been born again and want to tell a local community of Christians that you intend to be part of that community, then baptism seems like a good idea. Do you have to be baptized to go to Heaven? The first thing I want to say is that youre not alone. There were times when church was the last place I wanted to be and I was a pastor! Step 2 is we MUST be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the REMISSION of our sins (When we get baptized in Jesus Name, it is a symbol of Jesus blood applied over us for the washing away of our sins). Finally, lets talk about religion. Christianity is an intellectually rigorous pursuit of the truth, and these folks care about explaining the truth in ways that make sense. What I see is a reframing of Christianity, a challenge to orthodoxy, and doubts about whether sincere believers have understood what Jesus really meant. Limbo is a theory developed by Medieval theologians as the place where unbaptized persons go when they die. Well Tony I truly feel my grandsons are in heaven right now. I said is he lying about being a carpenter he said no, but its not his name. #2. Im not talking about simply having a new attitude, or changing your outlook. All of those friends have at least one thing in common: they are what the Bible describes as spiritually immature. Youre borrowing ideas from the Bible, but pretending that they mean whatever you want them to mean. Consider it something like a baby dedication, where parents promise to raise their children in the community of faith. Theres a TON in the Old Testament about Gods goodness. Myself and my father go into interpretations of Christianity and related religions, but I also note that I was born unbaptized and have yet to be. Let me know if theres more I can do for you. We can turn to a passage of Scripture to see why Im so concerned. We dunk fabric in water and dye, and pull it up to see if the fabric has changed color. Its simply the place where God is. Dont get me wrong: God loves good deeds. Have you been born again? Theyre just notes. In the meantime, Im praying for youasking God to make Himself clear to you. Its that the Holy Spirit dwells in you, and its much more likely that you were being warned than that you were being tricked. Im sorry to hear that your sisters have died, but people do not turn into angels. I dont commit adultery any more. Happiness is everyone's goal, and it comes from giving, not possessing. You should learn about God, and read about what Hes done with other believers. A good answer must start with a definition of sin. Thanks for writing, Ted! God IS love, and all that He does is done in love. if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: the old has gone, the new is here, that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him. I hope that these bits of advice make sense to you. If you dont have a community, find one. It sounds to me like you generally agree with what you know about Jesus, but youre unwilling to surrender to Him. Im answering carefully to avoid confusion. =). Its okay to not be baptized if your parents forbid it. I would start by reading the Gospel of Luke. Thats what oneness theology is: a tradition of men that contradicts the Word of God. People probably dont need to hear that youve had miraculous dreams, but they definitely do need to hear the gospel. Ill explain: As you can see by looking around, humans are kind of messed up. God has already spoken in His Word, and thats enough. If you disagree in the end, I wouldnt worry about it too much. Trouble awaits those who make bad decisions. How do I know? Does that make sense? The ossuary would then be placed with other ossuaries containing the bones of family members. I hope youll join me there. Its not that I disbelieve in any part of what youre saying. Yes, youll find some of us Jesus-followers in many of your local churches. Heaven isnt a place you earn the right to live in. Yes, Matthew was written before 70. Instead, God took the first step. If they needed money, they would even sell Torah scrolls to pay for it! Youre awesome! Thats a pretty big deal. My dead twin sisters are my guardian angels. I will keep repenting. Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Im greatly concerned for you, because too many times Ive seen this exact situation end in tragedy. If you prefer the confrontational approach, thats okay. Does God know all those that will God to heaven? Is it too late to be forgiven? Christians ARE obedient not perfectly, but purposefully but its not obedience that MAKES us Christians. There are also great free Bible apps for your phone, if you have one. I try to stay in the word because I find that the more I do I dont want to lie it down. When you responded by seeking more information about Him, that changed the nature of your relationship. Well, that would indeed be unfair. Then He died to show us how much He loves us: You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. You might try an Alpha course its a really low-key study that lasts a couple of months. The question of purgatory is entirely illogical to me, having read the Bible. Until you sit on the chair, youre not actually trusting it to hold you up. Im sorry that I cant give you a better answer today, Marietjie. He kept saying that he had no problem with the idea, but that he wasnt wrong. Thats rhythm. I have patience, and confidence, and a very fulfilling life not because I believe the right things, but because Ive been born again. Im very sorry to hear that, Therese. There will be plenty of people in Hell who recited prayers without being changed, and plenty who were baptized. God brings us to Heaven because we want to be with Him. what happens to unbaptized adults when they die. The word is used (historically, not in the Bible) to describe the moon, the planet Venus, John the Baptist, and even Jesus. They will guide new believers, serve the needy, and watch their life and doctrine closely. You and I probably believe some things that arent true, but that doesnt make us false teachersit only makes us incorrect. Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire. The idea of baptism, however, is that it is a public ceremonywhere you show the community of faith that you intend to join them. This is known as modalism, where the one God reveals Himself in three different modes, like fitting Himself differently into different situations. I dont have religion but it seems to me that he saves those who NEED saving. Do you think He would agree with your assessment of how the universe works? I salvation defined by one easy action, or is purgatory deniable? The question of where unbaptized infants go after death is one that has vexed the Church for centuries. Theres no need for you to be afraid of God. Sorry for hijacking the baptize thread. Baptism is in Mathew many scriptures is a part of salvation book of John you must be born of the water and the spirit or you will not enter the Kingdom of heaven therefore it seems you cannot remove or lessen it those who done good to the resurrection to die like Jesus and rise a new life water is his method the simple confound us . The way you phrased your question tells me that youve misunderstood the nature of Christianity. Do you write them off as unspiritual? This is, of course, nonsense. I dont know that Scripture backs that up exactly, but Im not going to argue against it at this point. I go to a christian school but no church. Were not all great at it yet, but we want to be like God. As you grow, He will guide you in exactly the right ways. What happens to unbaptized children when they die? I belong to Him, and THAT is why Im going to Heaven not because I sin less than I used to, or because I was baptized. Thats not to say that you cant be baptized at home, of course. Thats a common traditional thought in the modern world. We do the same today. The doctrine of the trinity isnt spelled out in a single verse in Scripture, of coursebut that doesnt mean its not clear. What about Birth Defects? There are no private baptisms in Scripture for that reason. I believe fully in the gospel of Jesus Christ but I have yet to be baptized and it is for this very reason: every church I have attended is visibly wicked. Find out what Jesus taught about how we should live its awesome. Thanks again for writing, my friend. Youre right: theres much, much more to being a Christian than just having Jesus in your heart. That, he explained, is how we get suicide bombers: they are told to do it by their teacher. No, baptism is not required for salvation. I appreciate it. The first key is from the only passage in the Bible where something specific is said about the death of infants. Baptism is the response to repentance, not part of it. Young people want things now, but thats not usually how God works. >> The problem is new theology or beliefs that get away from the traditions taught. For me, thats one of the best parts of following Jesus. Its a big deal to be baptized, and he didnt want anyone putting their life in danger unless they understood what Jesus requires of us. He doesnt like it when people put other things ahead of Him, since that isnt whats best for us. No need to baptised by the holyspirit. They have to trust God with their life. Ask! They would only go there for not being reconciled to God. Now, its possible that your grandparents have a valid point to make, even if theyre off-base about the specific music you like. Hi. Because I used to be on staff at a church that taught what you believe: that the initial physical evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues. If we look at Galatians 5, where Paul talks about false teachers, we can see a few things that identify false teachers: Verse 7: false teachers distract us from being obedient. You can get wet anytime you want, but that wont be baptism. That doesnt mean that He likes everything, obviously. All believers should actually be disciples. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'. The question is not what you like or dislike, Doug. After doing a little more teaching, He went to Heaven to be with the Father. I would suggest that youre not wrong, but that God can and will forgive anyone for any sin until they die, or until theyve sinned so much that He gives up on them. Read that 2 Corinthians passage and you can see it. Christianity isnt church membership, or simply avoiding sin, or anything other than trusting God and letting Him make you new. Im sorry to have to say it, but its true. If youve been born again like Jesus says in John 3, then you and I are the church. The trouble is that most people WILL read Acts 2:38 like a 21st-century person. Is it bad that i am scared for judgment day, not because im scared of going to hell but because I have always wanted to live a full life here and have kids and die naturally- im 15. We are therefore Christs ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. Have children, and you can learn how much God loves us. If the thief was saved and Im pretty sure we agree that he was then it wasnt because he kept the law. Thanks for your comment! But it seems to me now after taking in the comments of this thread and your answer, that gays have only two options to go to heaven on these premise. I kind of felt and still feel that I had no choice really, because of the pressure of becoming member of the Church. Hi, I have most of my life. This machine keeps her alive, and runs on electricity. The trouble with your comment is that you leave out a whole bunch of other verses. There will be no unfairness or injustice in Gods decision. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him, You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. The penalty for sin has been paidall thats left is to be reconciled to God. I welcome your input and I am not unable to change my convictions. Who was here in the flesh~Jesus; Who was justified in the Spirit~Jesus; Who was seen of angels~Jesus; Who was preached unto the Gentiles~Jesus; Who was received up into glory~Jesus. Trust God. I appreciate your honesty. Because you should probably have your own website. Be bad, go to Hell. After you read it, please come back and let me know whether you still believe that one must be baptized to be saved. A real person, who is God become human. Just do what God wants you to do, and leave the details to Him. Learn what He taught, so you can do it. Sometimes a visitor might happen or a medicine might be due during that sleep. Find someone. >> people on here are not wrong they view things different to you. After becoming a Christian, you should be baptizedbut not being baptized does not make you not a Christian. Thus the greater urgency to advance the Churchs Great Commission (Matt. I said ok, what about signing son. What kind of person would I become if I listened to, and lived by, the words of each song? So I suggest reading your Bible and praying until you know Jesus spoke to you and ask Him His plan for your life and dont stop until you fulfill your calling. Its also a good way to check out what their congregation does, to see if thats a better fit for you than where youve been. All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh and following its desires and thoughts. When we decide to follow Jesus, we decide to do what He taught. I have committed sins before. June 3, 2022 . He came to earth as a human, taught us to love unselfishly, to sacrifice for others, to be honest and fair and humble and kind. It is at that point that the unrighteous will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life. (Matthew 28:18-20) According VERSE 19, this passage says a disciple is made, baptized and taught all under the authority of Christ. The point is NOT to attend a church, but to BE the church. I mean, I dont know. Im happy to hear that your son is a good dad, and that youre involved in helping them. He has revealed Himself to us in many ways. This is a totally understandable feeling. Youre very kind! I was reading through and I saw you say that no one is in heaven or hell at this moment. The idea seems to be that theyre worried about the resurrectionthat cremating their body will somehow make it harder for God to reunite their spirit with their flesh. Learn with them. I wonder, though: what sign would you give to your faith community by defying your parents? They are a kind of prayer. You will become part of Gods family! Surround yourself with people who also follow Jesus, and learn from mature believers how to serve God where you are, in your situation. My church teaches we go to heaven after death. No, what youve claimed here is simply NOT found in Scripture. Nov 3, 2010. CHRISTIANITY People who dont trust God dont go to Heaven. Talk to God about your situation every day, ask Him to help you live as you should, and let those who see you also see Christ in you. However: if you do fit into that category, I have good news. Have a great day! This life IS good, and you should work hard to enjoy all that God has made.
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